There’s a better way…
March 16, 2010 13 Comments
…to make your point.
I’ll warn you, there’s a rant here; if you’re not a fan of those, navigate away while you still can!
I booted up the laptop this morning to check the comments, and read through the ones on yesterday’s post first, noting the pingback from The Noisy Rogue. Then I checked the comment from my now year old how to guide on PvE Combat. This gem from Syylence was waiting for me:
This spec is no longer the best way for a combat rogue to go in 3.3 +. I am pulling up to 10 k single target in some fights on my rogue now in ICC. Rupture is a bad glyph to use and should not be in your rotation either. Its basic now keep s&d up all the time evis at 4 to 5 combo points use cooldowns when ever you are able and in combination with other thing IE blood lust or trinks. But dont use this spec anymore!
I’m really not sure where to begin, but this comment irked me enough that I decided it needed a reply in the form of a post rather than a comment.
First of all. I get it. The guide hasn’t been updated since 3.1, and that’s ok. I never wrote it with players who were wearing anything close to BiS gear in mind. The players who are actually using the Combat guide are generally players who are newer to the class and are still gearing up. These players generally do not have enough Armor Pen to make the Ruptureless spec substantially better than one I posted many moons ago. In fact, at lower gear levels, running Ruptureless is loss of DPS. When they get to that point, there’s a little thing called Elitist Jerks that can tell them how to maximize their DPS.
Second, there’s something to be said for respect, and this comment shows a clear lack of it. I could care less if someone disagrees with me. It’s part of the gig. But the way this person went about it usually sets me off. Let’s break this comment down…
This spec is no longer the best way for a combat rogue to go in 3.3 +.
There’s nothing wrong with this statement, and I don’t refute it. In fact, in the 115 comments on the post, it’s already been brought up and discussed. I don’t use that spec anymore either. I’m currently rocking a Ruptureless 20/51/0 as my offspec, but I have the gear to support it as well.
I am pulling up to 10 k single target in some fights on my rogue now in ICC.
Here’s where the comment starts to go awry. First of all, great for you. However, telling people you can pull x DPS isn’t going to make them more likely to listen to you. I can top 25 man meters on multi-target fights, including Marrowgar, even though I play Assassination. However, despite the perfect forum for tooting my own horn, I don’t post about the quantity of DPS that I can pull.
Very few people care about how much DPS you can pull, just as they’re probably not interested in hearing about my latest recount numbers. I’m sure that you were just trying to assert yourself as being competent enough to make the comment, but it’s really not necessary, and quite possibly turned people off from what you had to say.
Rupture is a bad glyph to use and should not be in your rotation either.
That’s debatable. Consider if you’re undergeared and still using Rupture. Believe it or not, when you ding 80, you’re not just handed a set of gear with a 5k score. Also, you might only be lucky enough to get the gear that’s packed with Haste, and not Armor Pen. There’s something to be said about running with a spec like 20/51/0 where the talents maximize poison damage, but without enough Armor Pen, Rupture can outperform Eviscerate.
Its basic now keep s&d up all the time evis at 4 to 5 combo points use cooldowns when ever you are able and in combination with other thing IE blood lust or trinks.
Please don’t insult the intelligence of the readers of this blog. It’s been basic to keep S&D up for a long time. The idea of saving trinkets and cooldowns for Bloodlust / Heroism is also not new. That being said, waiting on a cooldown for an excessive amount of time just to line it up with Blood / Hero can actually be a loss of DPS.
But dont use this spec anymore!
This was the final straw that threw me over the edge. I make it a point of pride that I tell people to take what I say with a grain of salt. I would never tell another player how to play their game. The people in my raids are free to use whatever spec they would like to. If they’re not cutting it as a player, that’s one thing, but I don’t think it’s my place to tell someone how to play their game. I’ll be glad to offer suggestions, but I’m not going to force someone to respec.
How would I comment on this post? probably like this:
Your guide is out of date. I’m currently using the spec XX/XX/XX which, according to Elitist Jerks, is the best raiding Combat spec. My rotation consists mainly of keeping Slice and Dice up, as well as using 4-5 point Eviscerates. I save my cooldowns and trinkets for Heroism / Bloodlust. Since you wouldn’t be using Rupture, I’d replace that glyph with glyph of xxxxxxx. Let me know what you think
That comment is much more respectful, and players might be inclined to listen to it and try it out.
In the end, I’ve got few issues with what was said, just how it was said. It’s no secret that the guide is out of date and needs to be updated, as does the Assassination version. However, with the removal of Armor Pen as a stat in Cataclysm and Rupture gaining the ability to crit, I’m sure we’ll all be acquainted with it again in the near future.